Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Joe Joyce wrote on Thu, Sep 18, 2008 07:05 PM EDT:Lol, as a self-professed agnostic evolutionist, I am far more often characterized as 'wallowing in Evil', rather than as a 'fringe supporter of Good', but I'll do my best. Let me start by giving the 8x8 western variant its original name: the Mad Queen variant. The history of western chess from shatranj to the present is the story of short range pieces becoming 'infinite' sliders. Thus, logically, the next change should make the knights into the Gryphon and anti-Gryphon, or Mage and anti-Mage, or somesuch. One knight steps one orthogonally, then 1 diagonally outward, where it may stop, as the normal knight, or it continues on, like a rook, orthogonally outward, in one of two possible directions. The other knight, for balance, should move in the opposite manner: one square diagonally, then one square orthogonally outward, where it may stop, or continue diagonally outward as a bishop. And in keeping with the changes from shatranj to present, the 2 new knights must be lame. They are only sliders. You might even allow them the 2-step slide knight move of the other new knight, although the piece would have to stop on the old knight's destination square, and could not make an extended move. I propose this as the most logical 'next step' in chess, based on the known and surmised chess history of turning short range leapers into long range sliders. Interestingly, it reproduces some of the Falcon moves, another piece proposed as the logical next step in chess, with a different movement mechanic. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID Multiform does not match any item.